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There is something here for everyone. Support those who are involved in court actions. Attend educational meetings and seminars. Browse the suggested web sites...pass this information along to others.

Anyone who has attended that Gene Zimmerman Layman's Legal Forum, please contact timdeaton@yahoo.com. We will be starting an e-group to share notes and documents as well as establish advanced courses.


HEARINGS -- INDIANA
Please make contact prior to travelling any distance for a hearing. It is not uncommon for continuance to be granted shortly before the hearing.

HERE'S GOOD NEWS!  Jeff Bringle was charged with resisting arrest, failure to identify and several other bogus charges after a traffic stop for which there was no probable cause. The police failed to show for two scheduled depositions and the State of Indiana dis-missed the charges against Jeff!  We must be persistent, demand that our public servants obey the law and use the rules of court as those rules were intended.


September 26, 2003 - Final Pre-Trial Hearing
WHO: State of Indiana v. Jeff Bringle
WHAT: Final Pre-Trial Hearing
WHERE: Bartholomew County Court House - Downtown Columbus, Indiana. 3rd Floor
WHEN: Friday, September 26, 2003  9:00AM
CONTACT: Jeff Bringle  jbringle@rnetinc.net


October 3, 2003  - Proceedings Supplemental per T.R. 69
WHO: Roger Perry
WHAT: Proceedings Supplemental hearing to discover assets and attempt to seize
WHERE: Bartholomew County Court House - Downtown Columbus, Indiana. Superior Court #1
WHEN: Thursday, October 2, 2003 at 4:00 P.M.
CONTACT: Roger Perry  homecomings@rnetinc.net


October 9, 2003 Hearing on Interlocutory Order; Final pre-Trial
WHO: Jeff Bringle v. Several state actors
WHAT: Court of Appeals has ordered state actors to appear in court Actors do NOT have oaths or bonds.
This also involves Post Conviction Relief. A complicated, but interesting case.
WHERE: Johnson County Magistrates Court, 3rd Floor, Courthouse Franklin, Indiana
WHEN: Thursday, October 9, 2003  9:00AM


October 13, 2003 - Criminal Pre-Trial , Possession of Firearm
WHO: State v. Phil Brandt
WHAT: Pre-trial hearing.
WHERE; Hamilton County Superior Court 4, Courthouse, Noblesville, In
WHEN: Monday, October 13, 2003, 3:00PM
CONTACT: Phil Brandt  40sphil@iquest.net


October 13, 2003  Jury Trial - Resisting Arrest, Failure to ID
WHO: Jeff Bringle
WHAT: Jury Trial in a Criminal Traffic Action
WHERE: Bartholomew County Court House; Columbus, Indiana 3rd Floor
WHEN: Monday, October 13, 2003  9:00AM
CONTACT: Jeff Bringle   jbringle@rnetinc.net


October 28, 2003 Proceedings Supplemental - Collections
WHO: Bad Guys v Dan Cassidy
WHAT: Proceedings Supplemental to discover assets and make col-lection. Plaintiff earned judgment with no first hand knowledge of the alleged debt!
WHERE: City-County Building; 200 E Washington, Indianapolis, Indiana. Room T-341 (commonly known as the 'skinning room')
WHEN: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 at 1:30 PM
CONTACT: Dan Cassidy  dcass49207@aol.com
NOTES: These sessions often involve scores of alleged debtors and is a real zoo. If you want to see 'production line justice' at its absolute worst, this is it.


November 12 - Traffic Court - Seat Belt 'violation'
WHO: Judy Saunders
WHAT: Traffic court hearing. No seat belt. Seat belts are NOT required in trucks in Indiana. Judy has truck plates on her PT Cruiser issued by the state. The state classifies the PT as a truck. It is classified by insurance as a truck. She was, nevertheless, ticketed.
WHERE: Marion County Traffic Court; 904 E 10th; Indianapolis
WHEN:  1:30 PM on Wednesday, November 12, 2003.
CONTACT: Judy Saunders   jsprevention1@cs.com


December 17, 2003  1:30PM Motions Hearing
WHO: Chan v Tim Deaton et al.
WHAT: Hearing on outstanding motions including, but not limited to: Motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction,
Motion for Jury Trial, Motion for Bench Trial, Motion for Sanctions, Motion to compel Discovery, Motion, Third request for voluntary recusal of judge, Motion to Compel Attorney to turn over Documents and things.
WHERE: Indianapolis, City-County Building, 200 E Wash. Room W406 Superior Court 3, Civil Division
WHEN:  Wednesday, December 17, 2003; 1:30 PM
CONTACT: Tim Deaton   timdeaton@yahoo.com


December 18, 2003  2:30 P.M. Motions Hearing
WHO:   State of Indiana v Tim & Marie Deaton
WHAT:  Hearing on pending motions to dismiss, motions for sanctions, motion to strike, etc.
WHERE: Shelby County Superior Court #2. Main floor. Courthouse in Shelbyville, Indiana. 2 Blocks south of center of town and 1/2 block west. Park behind court house and enter at the rear. Court Room is on south end of buildings
WHEN:  Thursday, December 18, 2003 at 2:30 P.M.
COMMENT: State has failed to comply with discovery, admitted they had no documents on which to base the action, claims they do not have to produce documents, and other spurious and outrageous behavior unbefitting reasonable people. Thought we'd give you plenty of notice on this hearing. We will have been in court with this cause of action for nearly FIVE YEARS
at the time of this hearing.


AREA MEETINGS

Most meetings are free or very inexpensive. There is no pressure to participate. Meet interesting and well-rounded folks in a friendly and helpful atmosphere. Everyone welcome unless violent or disruptive. Share your ideas and ideals...you will be rapidly accepted by this diverse group of good people.


REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS

INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA --  LEGAL DISCUSSION GROUP
TIME: 7-9 PM we can visit after 9:00 Please be Prompt!
DATE: 2nd and 4th Monday of each month
TOPICS: Legal issues, court procedures, rules of evidence, etc.
COST: None
LOCATION: Methodist Medical Plaza; 9650 E Washington Street Indianapolis
DIRECTIONS: Exit 465 at Washington Street (exit 46) on east side of Indy. Turn LEFT (east) at the exit and follow approx 2 miles to Methodist Medical Plaza (on North side of street). Park in rear Bring your legal issues, questions and knowledge. Free Notary Service
CONTACT: timdeaton@yahoo.com

SPECIAL MEETING ON MONDAY,  OCTOBER 13, 2003.
Jeff Cole from We The People will be at the meeting and will explain what WTP is doing, how it effects you, and what you can do to help. This should be a SUPER meeting. Be prompt. Jeff will have the floor for the entire meeting. Be prepared! Go to the We the People Web Site  www.freedomabovefortune.com and search for articles on We the People and Bob Schultz on the web. Have your questions ready. We are fortunate to have the state coordinator with us for the meeting. Thanks to Bob Boyd for making the arrangements.
CONTACT: Jeff Cole arrow12358@earthlink.net   Bob Boyd  boydb@tce.com

LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY   -   Note new Location!
WHO: Patriots for America
WHAT: Basic Constitutional Law Discussions and other topics of interest
WHERE: University of Ky Law Library
WHEN: First and Third Wednesday of each month from 7:30pm until ? Call or e-mail for more information
COST: Free to those who show up
CONTACT: Mike Kleinhelter  502-939-2780  mkleinhelter@aol.com


FAIR OAKS, INDIANA -- PROPERTY RIGHTS MEETING
1st Friday of each month 7:00 P.M.
CONTACT: Bill Kruse (219) 345-5257 for directions and info landofthefree@netnitco.net
web site: nokankakeerefuge.com


MONROE, MICHIGAN--  Close to Toledo, Ohio and Detroit, MI
PATRIOT RALLY WITH GUEST SPEAKER
First Saturday of each month - 1:00PM local time til ??
LOCATION: Exit 11 off I-75. North on Laplacance approximately one mile to railroad tracks. Turn immediately left (west) on Dunbar Road and follow approximately 1/2 mile to Gateway Church House at 6146 East Dunbar. Nifty location. Very good folks.
COST: Free will offering will be taken
CONTACT: pastordan@cleaninter.net


DALLAS TEXAS -- We the People Law Classes
WHO: We The People of Texas - not affiliated with We The People organized by Bob Schultz
WHAT: Classes on the law
WHERE:  Grandy's!!! NE of LBJ Freeway on Northwest Hwy.Dallas, Texas Approximately two miles east of Fry's Electronics
WHEN: 1st, 3rd, 5th Thursday of each month  7:30PM-9:30PM
COST: None specified
CONTACT: wtplc@lycos.com
http://micromann.freeservers.com
http://trcp.freeservers.com
http://wtplc.freeservers.com
All WTPLC classes are recorded. Submit questions to wtplc@lycos.com


GEORGIA, NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA
Regular Monthly Patriot Meetings:
(Details can be found at Robert Clarkson's excellent web site www.patriotnetwork.info)


SEMINARS - WORKSOPS - EVENTS


CHUCK CONCES SEMINAR ON FOUR CONSECUTIVE SATURDAYS

September 6, 13, 20, 27, 2003 in Battle Creek Michigan

WHO: Chuck Conces, tax and legal researcher
WHAT: Four consecutive Saturdays of law and tax research, techniques, strategies, and tactics.
WHERE:Ryan's Steak House; 799 Capitol Ave SW; Battle Creek. MI
WHEN: See above. 11:00 AM start time
COST: $10 free will donation + $8 dinner. NO ONE TURNED AWAY FOR LACK OF FUNDS!
Contact: chuckconces@juno.com  http://conces.tripod.com


  GENE ZIMMERMAN RETURNS TO DETROIT WITH THE LAYMAN'S LEGAL FORUM
     September 29, 2003 - October 10, 2003  Two Full Weeks!

  WHO: Gene Zimmerman. Self-taught litigator and instructor in
      the civil and criminal process.
  WHAT: Two solid weeks of information, strategies, and techniques.
Commonly described as "A law school education in two weeks".
  WHERE: Detroit, Michigan area (Sterling Heights)
  CONTACT: Bill at  bcceye@aol.com or phone 248-649-5187
  This is the second seminar this year in Detroit. You will not
  only gain valuable information and techniques, but will have
  the opportunity to meet folks who have been through the forum
  and have used the material. These folks can become part of an
  on-going support group.
  Well worth your investment of time and money.


       Erwin Rommel Criminal Law Seminar
             October  4  &  5,  2003
  WHO: Michael Brown - America's Jail-House lawyer
  WHAT: Two days of the latest criminal law and defense techniques
       incorporating both most current experience and tactics to
       defend yourself against unlawful actions
  WHERE: Holiday Inn Hobby Airport; Houston Texas
  WHEN: Saturday October 4, and Sunday October 5, 2003. ALL DAY
  COST: $90.00 admission; Optional tapes and workbook $20 each
  CONTACT: Peter Simpson; Erwin Rommel School of Law; c/o POBox 211
          Atwater Minn 56209-0211 Phone: 320-857-2400
          http://members.aol.com/rommellaw/



     UNREGISTERED BAPTIST FELLOWSHIP NATIONAL CONFERENCE
        October 13-14, 2003      Indianapolis, Indiana
        Hosted by the Indianpolis Baptist Temple and
        Pastors Greg A. and Greg J. Dixon

  WHERE: Jonathan Byrd's Cafeteria and Convention Center at Exit 99
         off I-65 just south of Indianapolis
  WHEN:  All day and into the evening both days
  COST: Free will offering
  CONTACT: 317-254-1974, 414-3478, 783-6753 of just show up!

  SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS BY TEXE MARRS!!! (at above location)
  Monday, October 13, 2003 at 7:00 pm
  The Coming Police State Is Now Here!
  October 14, 2003 at 11:00 am
  The Myth of the Judeo-Christian Ethic


  Nuts & Bolts Of Civil Complaints and Winning in Court
    October 18-19  - Trenton Florida
  Who: Justin Garriott - who has been successful at what he teaches
  What: This intensive two-day Workshop is specifically on civil law
       and procedure, utilizing actual court cases and experiences,
       and is a nuts and bolts "how to" approach to researching,
       writing and arguing your own claims and effectively answering
       and defending against claims brought against you. Workshop
will
       include substantial discussion of banking, credit and
collections
       and will also examine the â?obanking argumentâ?.
  When: October 18-19, 2003 (Confirmed)
  Where: Trenton Womans Club - 819 SE County Road 339, Trenton,
Florida
  Cost: 275/person 300/couple advanced registration - includes
materials
  Contact: usff.chico@svic.net  get a flyer and registration
instructions.


     FULLY INFORMED JURY ASSOCIATON NATIONAL CONFERENCE
                    NOVEMBER 7,8,9, 2003

  WHO: Fully Informed Jury Association (FIJA). You know, the folks who
      work to inform the people that a jury has the right and DUTY to
      judge both the facts and the law. That a jury is the ONLY one
      standing to protect the common man from the ravages of a cor-
      rupt court system, runaway legislation, over-zealous-win-at-
      any-cost prosecutors, lying police, etc.
  WHAT: Three days of education aind information in a warm climate.
  WHERE: Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Marriot North
  WHEN: Friday-Sunday, November 7, 8, and 9, 2003
  CONTACT: fijamail@earthlink.net or the website at www.fija.org
  This is a VERY important organization that has done more to protect
  both civil and criminal defendants (that could be YOU!) from power
  hungry government bureaurats and educate juries than any other.


           WE THE PEOPLE INDIANA PROPERTY TAX PROTEST

   WHO: You!
   WHAT: A peacable assembly to show the disgust with the con-
         fiscatory property tax assessment and collection system
         in Indiana
   WHERE: State Capitol Building - Downtown Indianapolis
   WHEN: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - Time unspecified
   CONTACT:  Jeff Cole  arrow12358@earthlink.net
   NOTES: Article 10, Section 1 of the Indiana Constitution is
          routinely violated by the General Assembly and the
          local governments. Many folks property taxes have
          QUADRUPLED to the point that people are losing their
          homes due to inability to pay the property tax.


  LARKEN ROSE - the most knowledgable about the 26 USC 861 position.
Connect to his periodic newsletter. An excellent resource.
send a blank e-mail to T-I-updates-on@mail-list.com


  DR. ROBERT CLARKSON AND OTHERS
  http://www.patriotnetwork.info  More meetings, seminars and
  workshops than you can count! This is a very active group
  bringing numerous speakers on various topics throughout the
  south and south east. They will bring their message to your
  area...contact them.

  VICTORIA JOY SEMINARS AND WORKSHOPS
  http://www.angelwiththeinkwell.org/insidepg/schedule.shtml


  SUGGESTED WEB SITES

  Nifty site with LOADS of good stuff - The Liberty Library
   http://www.constitution.org/libertylib.htm

  Legal stuff:
  www.uscourts.gov/jury/hb_grand_jurors.pdf  Grand Jury Handbook -
Federal

  Tax Related
  www.paynoincometax.com  IRWIN SCHIFF America's Leading Authority on
  the Income Tax"  see also http://irwinschiff.homestead.com
  www.informamerica.com  Gordon Phillips' IRS informational site.
  http://contractamerica.com  Tired of using the Socialist Security
   Number to make a living?
  www.detaxindependentamerica.com  Don Proctor's tax site.
  www.eddiekahn.com  Eddie Kahn's research site on the income tax.
  www.taxfreedom101.com
  www.taxpayersleague.org
  www.givemeliberty.org   Bob Schultz is on the move! Some good
ideas.
  www.taxfreedomnow  Angela Stark reports on Schiff's court cases.
  http://conces.tripod.com  Chuck Conces legal and tax site

  Land and land rights, property taxes
  www.arpla.org   Land Rights, Privileges, Immunities
    Claimed, Reserved, and Vigorously Defended.
  www.landrights.com  your rights and responsibilities as a
  land 'owner'
  http://hoosiertaxpayers.com  fighting against rising property
taxes.
  www.nokankakeerefuge.com watchdog for state and federal land grabs
  www.noproptax.org  exposes the unlawful collection of property tax
  "Rights of NY Landowners to Use Force (Display Guns) to Stop,
    Expel and Arrest Defiant Trespassers" Theives, etc.
  http://billstclair.com/ferran/righttouseforce.html
  http://www.propertyrightsresearch.org/dear_fellow_property.htm
  http://myweb.ecomplanet.com/MYWS5955/mycustompage0018.htm

  Legal Education and services
  www.freedomlaw.com  Dr. RJ Tavel's "Self-Help Legal Clinic"
  www.jurisdictionary.com  Basics of civil procedure from a
fed up attorney. A GREAT Website with loads of information
  www.amatterofjustice.org  Dedicated to returning constitutional law
to the "sovereign individuals" of this country.
  http://americanrightslitigators.org  American Rights Litigators
an Eddie Kahn legal affiliate
  www.americansovereign.com  Radio personality Brent Johnson's
site. Discussions of legal issues, sovereignty, etc.
  www.citizensjustice.com  Attorney David Grossack's legal education
website
  www.constitution.org  Dedicated to research and public education on
the principles of constitutional republican government.
  www.patriotcaucus.com  Another Grossack educational site
  www.lawresearch-registry.org  Dan Meadors legal research site.
  www.e-legalclinic.com   Another of attorney Grossack's educational
Sites
  http://members.aol.com/rommellaw  Erwin Rommel Mobile School of Law
  http://www.objections.com  a simulated trial where you can test
     your objection ability.

  Good general sites
  www.mediabypass.com  Uncensored news from Media Bypass Magazine
  www.patriotsforliberty.org  proponents of individual rights and
limited government

  History
  http://www.antifederalist.org  Federalist and anti-federalist papers

  Family and Other
  www.familyguardian.tzo.com/  Protecting American families
      and individuals from taxes, persecution, socialism, and sin.
  www.bankfreedompages.com  Seeks elimination of any and all debt
  http://bradbva.home.mindspring.com/freedom/  Brad Barnhill's
adventures
    Some very good material on traffic, licensing, etc.
  www.freestateproject.org  A nifty and important idea and ongoing
     project to return our government to its rightful size and place.

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